I'm trying to figure out which of the three books more closely fits you range of interests, i.e., where you tend to focus your scanning of signals. I've heard podcasts featuring interviews with Haidt and Carney on Jonah Goldberg's Remnant podcast and Andrew Klaven interviewed Shrier in The Daily Wire app. Carney seems to me the broadest in scope and Shrier addresses the clinical region of overprescribing or therapyizing kids, so perhaps Anxious Generation with focus on content/signals of smartphones might be the first to start with your marathon.
Yes, that's where I will start. I'm handing Bad Therapy to my wife. ;-)
The Carney book, as I mentioned, focuses on other issues as well as screen culture.
But here is the essential point: I don't think there is any way that pastors, teachers, counsellors, parachurch leaders, etc., can ignore these facts and trends. Correct?
In my lifetime children have gone from a blessing to a curse. How interesting the point in the Family Unfriendly book that the screens make the children quiet and not needing parental attention. It’s the new Soma.
I had to look that one up. Tell me more. I assume you are not saying anxiety, in part linked to lose of sleep (due to screen use) or obesity, due to lack of play and physical activity. Tell me more.....
The topic is huge and runs very deep (see Philip Rieffs "Triumph of the Therapeutic" or Carl Truemans "Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self") but as moderns we dont think about therapy as having any dangers. I am constantly bombarded with ads about "Better Help" as to why I need therapy at every turn, can get it from the comfort of my desk chair, and its accepted by insurance. Some therapy is good, more is always better. Shrier (and many others) disagree. Medical treatments might be necessary, but always carry risk themselves. The question is, is it worth it (and in some cases it is, clearly), but the risk needs to be understood on the front end. Ironically, it seems the "treatment" for everyone's exponentially growing anxiety/depression/etc in the therapeutic frame is...more therapy, which seems to often further entrench the issues. The book is asking things like what happens when we send kids/teenagers to therapy, they get "diagnosed", and then medicated, because they reported at one point in time feeling depressed or anxious on the now required medical survey for mental health when they went to the doctor for an ear infection. In my experience, this topic is as charged as they come right now as well...
I'm trying to figure out which of the three books more closely fits you range of interests, i.e., where you tend to focus your scanning of signals. I've heard podcasts featuring interviews with Haidt and Carney on Jonah Goldberg's Remnant podcast and Andrew Klaven interviewed Shrier in The Daily Wire app. Carney seems to me the broadest in scope and Shrier addresses the clinical region of overprescribing or therapyizing kids, so perhaps Anxious Generation with focus on content/signals of smartphones might be the first to start with your marathon.
Yes, that's where I will start. I'm handing Bad Therapy to my wife. ;-)
The Carney book, as I mentioned, focuses on other issues as well as screen culture.
But here is the essential point: I don't think there is any way that pastors, teachers, counsellors, parachurch leaders, etc., can ignore these facts and trends. Correct?
Yep
We are reading “Bad Therapy” right now. It’s a quick read.
In my lifetime children have gone from a blessing to a curse. How interesting the point in the Family Unfriendly book that the screens make the children quiet and not needing parental attention. It’s the new Soma.
All of the books sound worthwhile.
And the SIGNAL is them coming out together. Hard to ignore, but many will do precisely that. Look for reactions from religious leaders?
The questions that Bad Therapy raises are extremely concerning - What are the iatrogenic effects of the triumph of the therapeutic culture?
I had to look that one up. Tell me more. I assume you are not saying anxiety, in part linked to lose of sleep (due to screen use) or obesity, due to lack of play and physical activity. Tell me more.....
Duh. LOSS of sleep
The topic is huge and runs very deep (see Philip Rieffs "Triumph of the Therapeutic" or Carl Truemans "Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self") but as moderns we dont think about therapy as having any dangers. I am constantly bombarded with ads about "Better Help" as to why I need therapy at every turn, can get it from the comfort of my desk chair, and its accepted by insurance. Some therapy is good, more is always better. Shrier (and many others) disagree. Medical treatments might be necessary, but always carry risk themselves. The question is, is it worth it (and in some cases it is, clearly), but the risk needs to be understood on the front end. Ironically, it seems the "treatment" for everyone's exponentially growing anxiety/depression/etc in the therapeutic frame is...more therapy, which seems to often further entrench the issues. The book is asking things like what happens when we send kids/teenagers to therapy, they get "diagnosed", and then medicated, because they reported at one point in time feeling depressed or anxious on the now required medical survey for mental health when they went to the doctor for an ear infection. In my experience, this topic is as charged as they come right now as well...
Yes. And the tech addictions are hard to ignore. Again, is this a subject the church must address?
She must be able to offer an alternative vision of reality...Kyrie Eleison
Me too