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Pope Francis was willing to sit down with Norah O’Donnell precisely because he knew 1) she agrees with him politically and 2) she doesn't know enough about Catholicism to even know what questions are "hard-hitting".

This is the same reason Pope Francis will never sit down with George Weigel or you, Terry. Progressives will never platform conservatives. The Pope said himself that he thinks conservatives are "clinging to ... a dogmatic box". Sounds a lot like a "basket of deplorables" who "cling to their guns and religion".

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Did you listen to the podcast? What did you think about the media-consultant memo anecdote, the one focusing on something that I witnessed linked to a major event in Southern Baptist life in 1984. I almost included that in the podcast POST, but didn't -- trying to keep to a modest word length.

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I must really like you, Terry, since I don't do podcasts at all. But now I had to!

You little eavesdropper... reading over the future SBC President's shoulder. (Yeah, I know, that's called journalism.) :-)

I think the PR firm that wrote the memo was very good. A reporter who is an expert is always more dangerous. The "stick to TV" advice makes sense. Did you get an interview with Stanley?

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Not really. He stuck to press conference remarks. He avoided the beat reporters.

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