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Haidt's remark: "“So, when I say spiritual 'degradation,' I am referring to a general sense that you find around the world that people can behave in a more elevated, noble, ethical way or a more degraded, carnal and selfish way. All of us can move up and down on this dimension (of life). Some people are instinctually high on this, even saints, or somehow closer to God, or somehow above us." Though an atheist, he sure uses religious language as many believers would. Interesting.

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As he said, he has had lots of contacts within Jewish educational efforts. There's that. He has also been in dialogue with believers -- Andy Crouch leaps to mind -- for several years. It's hard to discuss ETHICS, his primary field, in USA without some contact with Catholic and Protestant thought.

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